you know it and that's what i want to learn, how to make my life easier and more knowledgeable with a computer. >> so, what we need right now are more people who speak languages other than english or in addition to english, who can give their time during the day and who care deeply ideally about helping to close the digital divide. >> you know, its's a humbling experience, it could be something simple to us in our daily lives but to someone that doesn't know and to help somebody gain that experience in any way, it's awesome. >> (speaking spanish). >> no matter how tired or cranky or whatever i miekt feel when i walk into this class, i walk out feeling great. >> if you feel comfortable

using a cuter and you have patience, we want you on our team. >> with they showed me how to do skype. >> will you help me learn more?

>> i love teaching. it is such an exhilarating experience when people began to feel their own creativity. >> this really is a place where all people can come and take a class and fill part of the community. this is very enriching as an artist. a lot of folks take these classes and take their digital imagery and turn it into negatives. >> there are not many black and white darkrooms available anymore. that is a really big draw. >> this is a signature piece. this is the bill largest darkroom in the u.s.. >> there are a lot of people that want to get into that dark room. >> i think it is the heart of

this place. you feel it when you come in. >> the people who just started taking pictures, so this is really an intersection for many generations of photographers and this is a great place to learn because if you need people from different areas and also everyone who works here is working in photography.

>> we get to build the community here. this is different. first of all, this is a great location. it is in a less-populated area. >> of lot of people come here just so that they can participate in this program. it is a great opportunity for people who have a little bit of photographic experience. the people have a lot, they can really come together and share a love and a passion. >> we offer everything from traditional black and white darkrooms to learning how to process your first roll of film. we offer classes and workshops in digital camera, digital printing. we offer classes basically in

the shooting, ton the town at night, treasure island. there is a way for the programs exploring everyone who would like to spend the day on this program. >> hello, my name is jennifer. >> my name is simone. we are going on a field trip to take pictures up the hill. >> c'mon, c'mon, c'mon. >> actually, i have been here a lot. i have never looked closely enough to see everything. now, i get to take pictures. >> we want to try to get them to be more creative with it. we let them to be free with

them but at the same time, we give them a little bit of direction. >> you can focus in here. >> that was cool. >> if you see that? >> behind the city, behind the houses, behind those hills. the see any more hills? >> these kids are wonderful. they get to explore, they get to see different things. >> we let them explore a little bit. they get their best. if their parents ever ask, we can learn -- they can say that they learned about the depth of field or the rule of thirds or

that the shadows can give a good contrast. some of the things they come up with are fantastic. that is what we're trying to encourage. these kids can bring up the creativity and also the love for photography. >> a lot of people come into my classes and they don't feel like they really are creative and through the process of working and showing them and giving them some tips and ideas. >> this is kind of the best kept secret. you should come on and take a class. we have orientations on most saturdays. this is a really wonderful location and is the real jewel to the community. >> ready to develop your photography skills? the harvey milk photo center focuses on adult classes.

and saturday workshops expose youth and adults to photography classes. >> it is my pleasure to introduce our moderator this evening, professor almondover. he joined the uc davis school of law in 2004, following a clerkship with judge cal braise of the united states court of appeals for the second circuit. interest include election law, administrative law, statutory interpretation, constitutional law and property and natural

resources law. he is a resident of san francisco's mission district. we are honored to work chris almendorf. [ applause ] >> thank you very much and thank you to all of the candidates who are here today. we're very fortunate to be joined by six candidates and what i hope will soon be seven. all of the candidates have agreed to ask their supporters to be respectful of other candidates and the audience and to maintain quiet during the forum. i ask you to respect that commitment. every aspect of this forum will be equally fair to all participating candidates. as everyone here knows candidate debates are often limited to latitudinal appears and personal attack. our debate focuses on critical areas of policy disagreement among the leading candidates. so this end the league of women voters of san francisco and the

san francisco public press working with researchers at uc davis, developed an issue position survey for the supervisorial candidates. the candidates were asked to state whether they support or opposite 43 specific polices or policy proposals. many of which have recently divided the board of supervisors. as the candidates here tonight, london breed, julian davis, hope johnson, andrew resignato and thea selby answered. christina olague has not answered any of the questions. the survey responses were provided to team of uc hasteings ings students and representatives of league of women voters, who drew up the questions for tonight's debate. the results of the candidate survey are used by the san francisco public press to

create a non-partisan voter guide that summarizes where the candidates stand on the issue and will be available on the website soon. meanwhile hvnnjp. preview you may pick up a copy of the current issue of the san francisco public press at the table in the back of the room, which has a fold out summarizing the candidates' position. a little bit about the format of this evening's event. each question will be directed to three candidates or in some cases two. each of these candidates will have one minute to respond. following the named candidates' responses, other candidates may elect to use one of their three discretionary time cards, which they have all been provided. to speak to the question for one minute as well. we ask that after the candidate uses the card, they deposit the card in the basket in front of them, so each candidate, in fact, uses the card on only

three occasions. the timekeeper in the first row will hold up a yellow card to signify to the speaking candidate that they have time remanning to peak and a red card signifies time to stop. because most of the questions for tonight's debate are based on issues survey, the candidates who completed the survey will receive a few more questions than the candidates who did not. i would like to thank the sponsors of today's sponsor forum including the university of california-san francisco, hastings college of law, [wo-uflt/] and our media partner sfgtv. we're fortunate to have such an impressive field of candidates. i will begin with the questions. the first question is for miss breed.

mr. davis, and mr. resignato. and for the benefit of the audience, i will also project the questions on the screen. please explain your position on whether or under what conditions the san francisco parks and recreation department should be parented to lease park facilitis to food vendors and other commercial enterprises? miss breed? >> hi. london breed. i think that what we see now in the recreation -- i'm sorry, what is the time limit on each of these questions? >> one minute, please. >> i think what we see now is a bit of an abuse in terms of the number of vendors that the city has leased space to in our parks. and parks and recreation is for parks and recreation and not necessarily should be a place where we are leasing space to

more vendors than we particularly need in specific areas. there is a place for vendors, for food vendors for various vendors in certain areas of the parks, but i think we are focusing way too much time on trying to figure out how we generate revenue for the city more so than we are trying to figure out how to make sure that those uses are good uses for the people who use the parks . >> julian davis here. you know, i think we're seeing somewhat of a crisis in our parks and recreation department. i found that the department is severely mismanaged. we have synthetic fields going we have privatization and commercialization of our park spaces. we have rec directors being fired and park patrol officers being hired. we have onerous fees for access

to community space, pricing community events out of our park spaces. the question is about whether particular conditions and limits we would put, i will give you a little sense of what will guide me in terms of my values and look closely at community people and people from community to be able to have access to our parks and recreation facilities. so if we're leasing spaces we need to make sure that is not to the detriment of folks who should affordably be able to take advantage of our park spaces. we have arboretum fees and i think these kind of policies are creating a less accessible park system, so that will be my guiding principles when i craft limits on privatizing or leasing our park spaces. >> thank you. mr. resignato. >> i agree with what julian just said. i think one of the examples is really the concerts that we have in the parks that are

excluding people. for example, i forget the name of it actually. outside lands which cost over $100 a ticket and excludes a lot of people from being able to access the parks. when other concerts that the power of the people concert, which is much more a public and free isn't able to get a permit because it's too expensive. so i think our values have to be with us, especially in our public spaces, our values have to be to err on the side of allowing public entities access and maybe restricting some of the private entities or corporations or charging them more to access/to use our public spaces. that is my opinion. >> thank you. the next question is for miss johnson, mr. resignato and miss selby. measure f, which is on the

ballot this november would require san francisco to come up with a plan to drain the hetch hetchy reservoir and restore the hetch hetch valley to its natural state. please explain why you support or oppose measure f? miss johnson? >> yes. i think i'm one of the only candidates who supports measure f. it's not necessarily that you have to drain hetch hetchy. hetch hetchy is one of nine reservoirs. the city of san francisco is one of the only cities and, in fact the only city that did not respond to a survey of water recycling. the city will not do anything and they say they cannot recycle water for ten years, even though there is already best practices. so this study would find out ways that we can improve -- we used to get most of our water from the undergroundwater

infrastructure, but that has not been maintained properly. so we have been relying more and more on hetch hetchy, which was created by damming the tuolumne river, where we get our water. so it's a study to fund researching ways to improve our water system. >> it's interesting that hope and i get this question, because we just remailed on this topic about two hours ago and i have been trying to get more information, because we usually agree on a lot of things. i have opposed this measure, because i think it's -- at a time when we don't have a lot of funding, i think the spirit of the measure is in the right place, looking at some issues of water. one is what i'm concerned with is, i'm the only health go and it could be an issue for people

with compromised immune systems. i think it's you agood point and i was looking at the statistics today. the measure is very broad and outlines a lot of things that might be a little too ambitious right now and i think $8 million that the time is tough when we have a lot of other priorities. so that is why i have opposed it. i think the spirit of it is good, and we should start looking at that, but it's the particular measure that i don't agree with. thank you. >> thea selby. i also oppose measure f and the reason for that, there are a couple different reasons, but one is certainly not only do we have the world's finest water. i mean i don't know if you have lived in other places, but the water from the hetch hetchy is the most drinkable, most delicious water in the world. and i love my water. i don't want to lose my water. we do get some of it from the ground. we do use some groundwater and that will be increasing over

time. that is something that i think the sf puc is looking into. so certainly water itself is absolutely delicious, pure, pristine and fabulous and water is really the new oil. water is extremely important to us. but also it gives us energy. we have hydropower from our water source, a lot of city, if not all of the city is powered, sfmta, possibly the city buildings is powered by the hetch hetchy and i don't want to give that up either. >> thank you. i will remind the candidates that if at any point they wish to jump in on a question they may do so using a time card. the next question is for miss breed, mr. johnson and miss selby.

please explain whether you think sit/lie is working to address public safety as intended across the city and how you would reform it, if indeed you would reform it? miss breed? >> i did vote yes on sit/lie. i had a number of issues in the upper haight that were just really unfortunate situations and i thought there needed to be some sort of solution to the problem. unfortunately it hasn't worked. we still have some real problems in the haight and we need to make sure that the social service agencies that deal with mental health abuse issues, that deal with drug treatment issues, those particular organizations are on the front line helping the folks who need the help. and the people that are and sometimes what we perceive as the "problems of the haight," are the ones that need the services the most and we need to make sure that the services

are where they are needed. and they are needed in the haight and with sit-lie we just move the problem from one location to another. it's to look at the situation more seriously and address it the way we need to as a city. >> thank you. miss johnson? >> i do not support sit/lie and still do not support sit/lie. one of the main reasons i felt at the time it was a regissue that the two different factions that kind of operate in san francisco were using against each other. the progressives and the moderates. and i felt it was not really relevant to what was going on in the city at the time. it is an important issue up in the haight, but it hasn't really worked and it hasn't been imposed citywide, but just in the haight. everybody sort of moves down in the park and they had to put in

bicycle racks to disperse that. the sfpd has laws on the book that it could use if it wanted to and some of the issues that will come up are not going to go away. these people don't have anywhere to go. a lot of them have drug problems and we have cut services and that is a broader issue of where those people will go. >> thea selby, i also did not support sit/lie and for some of the same reasons. there are laws on the books that could take care of it. so i was concerned that if the chief of police moved on and lo and behold the chief of police moved on, there won't be the same will to do something if we had sit/lie and my ways of reforming -- i didn't think we needed laws. i thought what we needed is what we still need is community-building and getting people on the streets and activating the streets. i have been working with a group of other neighborhood

people, and we have been meeting about what are the ways that we can activate lake albert, where a lot of the people went? yes, we need social services and yes, there is probably a police element as well. i don't know if you have seen the report, but there is a report out there and certainly any place it's worked it has worked here the best of all the places. but nonetheless we have shifted the problem, not gotten rid of the problem. >> there are two other candidates who wish to jump in on this. >> as an attorney working in the criminal justice system here in san francisco i'm on the front lines of a lot of these issues, including mental health issues, homelessness issues and substance-abuse which is really at the subsidiary at this particular set of circumstances here. that being said, make no mistake about it, folks, the two other panelists were correct.

excuse me, there is already legislation on the books to address this problem. what the people wanted to do was send a message and i believe it was the wrong message. it's the message that san francisco is not an inclusive city, that it's not a tolerant city. yes we have public safety concerns. yes there are real issues out there, but there are better, more humane and more just and quite frankly more san francisco-centered ways to deal with those issues. >> mr. resignato. >> so i kind of also agree with what mr. everett just said. and we have deeper political/social issues to address. we come up with new laws with gang injunction and the idea of stop and frisk and we have laws on the books already, but what we need is that we need police presence. we need community programs and also we need new ideas. if you talk about the end of the park at stanon, what is going on there now, i have been

talking in the campaign because i think what is interesting is the idea of haight street museum. it's been tried before, but the haight street is an historical area and a museum really changing the way that area is and activating that area. i keep putting that out there, because that is something that i would propose as supervisor. >> thank you. mr. davis? >> the sit/lie law is a perfect example of trying to address a symptom without curing the disease. we have massive inequitis in our society. that is apparent from the number of homeless people that we see on our streets in san francisco and it's a problem that is not just a san francisco problem. it's a problem that is experienced statewide. it's a national problem. and i think we need leaders at city hall who will be willing to step up and work with our state and national leaders to try to solve the problem of

homelessness in america. one thing we do at the booker t. washington center to where i was recently president, building affordable housing half of had which will be dedicated to emancipated youth. so i think we really do need to look at the root cause of the issue. it's about inequity and how we provide supportive housing and mental health services and drug treatment and really look at the problem from its source. thank you. >> thank you. davis, miss olague and miss selby. >> currently any member of public can review a project. critics say this results in

costs and limiting supply of housing. opponents say discretionary review is necessary so that everyone affected by a project can be heard. how would you if the all reform the discretionary process? mr. davis, miss olague and miss selby. >> as a board president of booker t. recently we had to seek permission from the board of supervisors for housing and community space. , as much as i would have liked that process to go quicker, as much as i would have liked to see less opposition from some of the neighbors. we had a lot of support from the neighbors as well. i think it's really important that folks have the opportunity to air their concerns at city hall to, air their concerns at planning, to air their concerns in front of the board of supervisors and ultimatelis a community, we do need to decide and balance interests and mitigate impacts and at the end of the day the booker t.

project final designs are better than started because it did go through a review process. so i wouldn't try to limit discretionary review. i think it's an important part of the process, of planning in san francisco and a vital example of community input and planning in san francisco. >> miss olague. >> christiana olague. apologies for being late. we' hearing on achievement gaps between african-american and the discussion was such that i didn't feel i should leave. that being said, the booker t. washington was definitely a very contentious project that i sat on the commission at the time. a lot of opposition may be classified as nimby opposition, but this is not the case of a discretionary review. discretionary review are usually initiated by neighbors, 311 notice. your neighbor wants to add a deck or do something to their prop a